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		<title>ARVC- State Associations</title>
		<link>http://www.campgroundmanager.com/blog/2011/11/18/arvc-state-associations/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PeterK</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read this blog.
I wanted to throw my two cents (and Canadian at that) into the ARVC- State Association discussions floating around right now. I know it is a bit of a volatile subject but hey, faint heart never won a fair woman.
In my seventeen years in the business [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks,</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time to read this blog.</p>
<p>I wanted to throw my two cents (and Canadian at that) into the ARVC- State Association discussions floating around right now. I know it is a bit of a volatile subject but hey, faint heart never won a fair woman.</p>
<p>In my seventeen years in the business I have seen this ongoing situation manifest itself many times. The tension between the state associations and ARVC has always been there albeit to a lesser degree. From my perspective instead of this huge tug of war for the attention and dues from individual parks, why can’t we just drop the rope? I am not saying they have to work together but there is certainly space for all these organizations.</p>
<p>It is all about value in today’s marketplace. It is about which organization can deliver the most value to the campground owner. The one who can do that will get the business. What if they both got the business! If I am not mistaken it is the job or mission of the state park associations and ARVC to look after the lobby affairs of their “constituents”. The parks realized way back when that you cannot fight city hall, so they banded together and formed associations that fought the fight on their behalf at the state capital level and in Washington. Yes I am sure there are other ancillary benefits that come with banding together but I believe that is their main focus. At least from my somewhat skewed perspective.</p>
<p>I have found lately that both of the  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_association">trade associations</a> have gotten away from that. They are becoming all about driving revenue to the bottom line in order to stay in business. They offer buyer bulk discounts, take money form vendors/suppliers such as myself to promote their products and generally do what they have to do to stay in business. However they are not a business. To quote Peter Drucker , “Business is about building things and selling them”. These trade associations do neither.</p>
<p>I have a couple of good examples. About 10-12 years ago we were invited to a state association trade show. We purchased some space, flew down there with our booth, rented a car, rented a hotel room and generally spent money on the road. When we got to the show one of the associations board members announced over the public address system that his son was also in the software business and had a booth. Please go visit him as he is a lot cheaper that Campground Manager Software® and the state association will get a commission on every system he sells. We packed up and went home. We have never been back and will never go back. I have no problem with buddy’s son starting a software company but don’t wrap in the cloak of the state association and expect me to participate. We have enough trouble competing with competitors that we don’t need to compete with the trade show organizers also.</p>
<p>I have another good example. Recently we decided to launch an iPhone and iPad app for our Bookyoursite.com booking system. So in order to make it a user friendly feature enriched app we needed some campground data. We approached an association (of which we are a long time member) about using their data. They turned us down because they are launching their own iPhone app and we would be a competitor. Huh? I thought you were a trade association.</p>
<p>I get that there is strength in numbers and the benefits are many when people group together. However I just think these associations have lost focus on what their mission is. Once they refocus and get back to doing what trade associations do (acting on behalf of their constituents at the government lobby level, advertising, setting standards, education, political donations) then it will be much easier to “drop the rope”.</p>
<p>Your comments are welcome.</p>
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		<title>ARVC Business Forum</title>
		<link>http://www.campgroundmanager.com/blog/2009/06/26/arvc-business-forum/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PeterK</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi folks,
I was recently in Colorado at the ARVC Business forum meeting. We meet twice a year and make recommendations to the ARVC Board. We, as outside vendors, bring a different view to some of the issues facing ARVC. The ARVC board does not have to take our recommendations or indeed even respond to them however [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks,</p>
<p>I was recently in Colorado at the ARVC Business forum meeting. We meet twice a year and make recommendations to the ARVC Board. We, as outside vendors, bring a different view to some of the issues facing ARVC. The ARVC board does not have to take our recommendations or indeed even respond to them however lots of ideas and policies we have suggested have gone on to be adopted by the board.</p>
<p>It is a very loose group of mostly vendors and corporate suppliers and it can be very informative. Recently the most interesting thing I took out of the meeting centered around the discussion of A Class motor homes. With 4 out of the top 5 A Class manufacturers no longer in business there was some discourse as to whether the A Class segment of RV’s would ever return. Is the A Class segment dead? And of so why? These are the reasons we discussed:</p>
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<li>They are not on the top of the list environmentally. They are very large, use a lot of fuel and have a huge carbon footprint.</li>
<li>They take up a lot of square footage in campgrounds.</li>
<li>30 amp used to be the standard but now 50 amp is and soon will be a 100 amp for some of these big machines. That is a lot of energy usage.</li>
<li>They are not easy to drive and maneuver.</li>
<li>In some cases people require off-season storage as the home owner as no room in the driveway. Whereas you can put a pop-up or tent in your garage.</li>
<li>Some municipalities do not allow driveway storage (could be said of all RV’s).</li>
<li>The society wide trend of stripping away the decadence in a time of recession, does not bode well with the A Class segment.</li>
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<div>These are just a few of the things that were discussed. I personally do not think they will completely disappear as there is a market niche there. People love toys and A Class motohomes are one big toy. Also based on the length and width of some of the huge fifth wheels out there, they could also be included in this argument.</div>
<div>Now the question is, how does this affect the campground owners? How would we change our park layouts?</div>
<div>Too early to tell. At our park we are not making any changes based on the above discussion. However it is important to stay on top of the trends with an eye towards the future.</div>
<div>Also at the meeting we heard from a representative from REI. They are a huge camping coop retailer in the US. He shared with us that their tent sales have gone through the roof. So as a park owner that does interest me. Those people have to camp somehwere and with a lot of state park systems cutting back and closing parks, we see a real opportunity there. Maybe upgrade our tent sites, put them in better locations and maybe charge a bit more.</div>
<div>I like how the two discussions are diametrically opposed. Kind of reflects what is going on in societal terms. So that is it for now. All comments are welcome.</div>
<div>Peter</div>
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		<title>ARVC Trade Show</title>
		<link>http://www.campgroundmanager.com/blog/2008/11/28/arvc-trade-show/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PeterK</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi folks,
Just returned from two solid weeks on the road. My longest road trip in 25 years of traveling. First we went to the LSI Jellystone trade show in Cincinnati Ohio. This was our 12th year in a row at this show with the good folks at LSI. We are the recommended software vendor for the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks,</p>
<p>Just returned from two solid weeks on the road. My longest road trip in 25 years of traveling. First we went to the LSI Jellystone trade show in Cincinnati Ohio. This was our 12th year in a row at this show with the good folks at LSI. We are the recommended software vendor for the Jellystone parks and we support them by attending their show.</p>
<p>I flew through the Chicago O&#8217;Hare airport the day of the federal election in the US. The airport was just buzzing with excitement. At any rate the flight was full to Cinci and the hotel was full and made me wonder again about the actual &#8220;on the street&#8221; effects of the financial market crisis. Now, if the car company&#8217;s go down there will be massive layoffs and I think it would accelerate the downward spiral and you would really see the effects at street level.</p>
<p>We left that show and went to the ARVC In Sites show just down the road in Nashville. I actually just stayed down in Cinci for the weekend and did not make the long trip home. While there I visited the <a title="Freedom Museum" href="http://www.freedomcenter.org/" target="_blank">National Underground Railway Museum</a>. Absolutely spellbinding. You want a reality check on good we have it? Check out that museum.  I then continued on to Nashville on the Monday.</p>
<p>The ARVC Insites show is a show we do every year and as far as shows go, the best attended. This year the attendance at the show was very disappointing. Something like 600 people showed up as opposed to the usual 1100. Yes our booth was very busy, yes most of our major customers were there however I have this underlying feeling of discontent. Not sure why. Was it because not too many people pulled their wallet out in Nashville? Was it because people are constantly bombarded with bad news that the bad news in itself was causing more bad news? Kind of a self generating maelstrom of discontent and worry.</p>
<p>Was it because we were in Nashville during the CMA awards? (Where, the night of the awards, there was just an orgy of opulence pulling up to the Sommet Center to unload the VIP&#8217;s of the country music industry). Into this environment we held the ARVC trade show which is a grassroots back to nature industry (not exactly aligned with the County music corporate business).</p>
<p>I am wondering if the shows would be better attended if they were &#8220;free&#8221; for the campgrounds. ARVC would have to charge it&#8217;s vendors a lot more however if we got a lot more people maybe it would pay for itself. Include the InSites admission in the park&#8217;s ARVC membership fee. Put the membership fee up a bit but then attach this &#8220;value add&#8221; of the tradeshow admission to their membership. Just an idea. With some of the state associations moving away from ARVC this might be the best opporunity for ARVC to <a href="http://www.whomovedmycheese.com/gaining_change_skills/view.php?id=who_moved_my_cheese" target="_blank">&#8220;move the cheese&#8221;.</a> For ARVC to start building their brand equity. To stand on the value they deliver to their 4000 members. To change their revenue model. Food for thought.</p>
<p>So I home now, getting out my curling gear and sharpening the edges of my skis getting ready for winter here in Calgary.</p>
<p>As always I welcome your comments.</p>
<p>All for now</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>Yield Optimization for RV parks and Campgrounds</title>
		<link>http://www.campgroundmanager.com/blog/2008/04/21/yield-optimization-for-rv-parks-and-campgrounds/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PeterK</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi folks,I thought I would post my thoughts today on the very popular hot topic in our industry- yield optimization. For those of you who aren&#8217;t clear on what I mean by this, I am referring to the automatic adjustment of rates at the park based on the occupancy. So as your park reaches certain occupancy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks,I thought I would post my thoughts today on the very popular hot topic in our industry- yield optimization. For those of you who aren&#8217;t clear on what I mean by this, I am referring to the automatic adjustment of rates at the park based on the occupancy. So as your park reaches certain occupancy thresholds the system automatically applies a algorithm to the rate structure to increase the rates. In other words as occupancy goes up so do the rates.  The classic model of supply versus demand. As we are in the software business we get asked about this a lot. Previously I have posted my thoughts on this subject in the ARVC report. No less than Dave Gorin responded in the next monthly report refuting my thoughts and taking the opposite side of the debate. (Which is healthy and OK with me). It looks like now we will be building this feature into the next major rewrite of Campground Manager Software® however philosophically we are against it. I know hotel programs work this way and airlines work this way but rv parks and campgrounds are a different animal. In a RV park and campground there is a basic level of trust between the customers and the park business owners/staff. We own a park (Jellystone Niagara) and we are on the front line every day to see the social interaction. Once the camper sets up his RV the first thing he does is meet his neighbors. The discussion starts with the RV hardware and then the talk invariably turns to how much they paid for that evening for the site. By charging different rates for different people based on the time of day they called or arrived at the park you are risking breaking the bond of trust between you the business owner and the customer. Plus you cannot post rates in with any sense of confidence. Once you break that trust with  your customer he will either take a round out of your park staff or worse,<span style="font-weight: bold" class="Apple-style-span"> keep quiet and go somewhere else</span>. Is that worth the extra  5% or more you might get for that night&#8217;s rate? It will cost you many times more than that to get the customer back. (If you ever do). Hotels are different. You check into a hotel you don&#8217;t go next door to ask the people in the next room what they paid. Everyone also knows that with front desk people at hotels, if you stand their long enough, will reduce the rate. Do you want that at the front desk of your park? In the current version of Campground Manager Software® we already have yield management albeit in a different version. You can have off season and on season rates. You can have long weekend premium rates. You can have a different rate for every day of the week if you want. In my opinion that is the way that you maximize revenue without breaking the trust of the customer. Besides why are we patterning ourselves after the airline industry? In the same week that two more airlines have declared Chapter 11(Aloha and ATA airlines ) in the US, why would we want to follow that model? As Warren Buffet says &#8220;I will no longer invest in the airline business. The airline business as not made money as a sector <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">since flight was invented.</span>&#8221; I would be interested in your thoughts.  Peter </p>
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